Canadiens jack up season-ticket prices by as much as 24 per cent

STU COWAN
MONTREAL GAZETTE

The Canadiens might have just priced some of their most hardcore fans out of the Bell Centre.

Canadiens season-ticket holders received their bills this week for the 2015-16 National Hockey League season and fans who sit in the nosebleed blue section have reason to be upset. Those tickets have suddenly gone up 24 per cent in price.

“I am really pissed off … I have to be honest,” one longtime season-ticket holder told the Montreal Gazette on Wednesday after learning his pair of tickets in the blues (located four rows from the roof) will cost $4,002.77 this season, up from $3,227.87 last year.

“If you do the math, it’s 24 per cent … that’s insane,” added the season-ticket holder, who asked that his name not be used for fear of repercussions from the club. “Gasoline stations don’t put up their price 24 per cent in one shot.

“They don’t even say anything to us … they just send the bill out,” he added. “They should be embarrassed by that and I’m a huge Habs fan. I’m really, really mad at this. They could have at least sent out a letter saying due to this and that we had to put up the cost. But 24 per cent? They nailed us big time.”

There will also be a significant raise in ticket prices for the other two sections in the upper bowl of the Bell Centre, with grey seats going up about 20 per cent and whites 10 per cent. One season-ticket holder in the whites told the Montreal Gazette that his pair of seats will now cost $7,378.67, including taxes and service charges. Tickets in the lower bowl will see price increases of about 3 per cent — which a Canadiens spokesman said Wednesday is about the normal annual hike — while the limited number of tickets in the “family section” will remain at $21. A pair of season tickets in Section 103 in the lower bowl for the 2015-16 season will cost $13,895.57. Season-ticket holders must purchase their seats for the four pre-season games at the Bell Centre at regular-season prices.

“Our people felt that it was appropriate to make the adjustments based on the real value on the market,” Donald Beauchamp, the Canadiens’ senior vice-president (communications and community relations) said Wednesday afternoon to explain the price hikes in the upper bowl. “A 25-per-cent number might look like a lot, but at the end of the day it’s about $6 or $7 more per ticket.

“The value of those tickets did not reflect their market value,” he added.

Beauchamp said the club had looked at what tickets in the upper bowl were re-selling for on the Canadiens Ticket Vault — the club’s official ticket resale site — and other secondary markets, adding: “and I’m not talking scalpers.”

The season-ticket holder in the blues who spoke with the Montreal Gazette said his seats now cost $44 each, up from $36 last season. He has had season tickets for more than 30 years, dating back to the days at the Forum, and said when the club first moved to the Bell Centre in 1996 his seats cost $16 each. He was also upset about the Canadiens charging a $110 “administration fee” for his new season tickets, not including taxes.

“Can you imagine going to McDonald’s and the guy says that’s an extra dollar for your Big Mac for administration fees?” he said. “That’s the business they’re in.”

The Canadiens have a capacity of 21,287 at the Bell Centre, with 15,000 of the seats sold as season tickets, according to Beauchamp. The Canadiens make another 4,000 seats per game available to the general public, while the rest are in corporate suites. The Canadiens’ sellout streak at the Bell Centre came to an end after 422 games last December, but only because Jean Béliveau’s seat was left empty out of respect following the Hall of Famer’s death. The last time the Canadiens actually didn’t sell out a game was on Jan. 8, 2004. The top individual game-ticket price for a regular-season “optimum game” last season was $439 in the Platinum section, while the same seat was $270 for a “regular game”. Individual game tickets for 2015-16 will go on sale in early September.

Beauchamp said that the economic reality is the Canadiens could sell all 21,287 seats as season tickets — with “thousands” on a waiting list — but “as an organization we always felt that it was a good idea to have those (4,000) tickets offered to more people.”

According to a Forbes report last season, the Canadiens had the 10th-highest average ticket price in the NHL last season at $219. The Toronto Maple Leafs were No. 1 at $446, followed by the Edmonton Oilers ($328), Vancouver Canucks ($297), Chicago Blackhawks ($279), Calgary Flames ($265), Winnipeg Jets ($253), Pittsburgh Penguins ($231), New York Rangers ($224) and Boston Bruins ($223).

While many of the season tickets in the lower bowl of the Bell Centre are owned by corporations, which can write off a good chunk at tax time, the blues are the seats most affordable to the average fan paying out of his own pocket. It’s also where the loudest fans normally sit, wearing their bleu-blanc-rouge sweaters. The season-ticket holder in the whites who spoke to the Montreal Gazette — and also didn’t want his name to be used — said his ticket prices basically doubled about five years ago when he moved down from the blues after being on a waiting list for two or three years to improve his seats. He owns a small business and said that last year he was able to write off about 50 per cent of the cost of his tickets, not including the PST and GST. He only goes to about five games a season himself, giving the rest of his tickets to clients.

But the season-ticket holder in the blues, who is living on an old age pension and pays 100 per cent out of his own pocket, said he can no longer afford his tickets. He plans to only go to about five games this season, while hoping to sell the rest of his tickets to friends at face value to recoup a chunk of the $4,002.77 he will now have to put out. When asked if he had thought about getting rid of his season tickets altogether, he said: “I have to keep them … I’m a big Habs fan.”

One of the first things they teach you in Economics 101 is the law of supply and demand.

The Canadiens have learned it very well.

(Photo by Dario Ayala/Montreal Gazette)

• Sportsnet will televise all 82 Habs games this season

553 Comments

  1. frontenac1 says:

    Damn, the vodka is going down good today.
    Steelers vs the Vikings on tonight. Saludos Amigos!

  2. on2ndthought says:

    Here goes:
    Let me tell you what Patrick Kane’s millions mean to an woman accusing him of rape.
    It means the police and justice community will face a barrage of the best lawyers available, at every step of the investigation. [and that assumes they are not already prejudiced towards the area’s ‘golden boy’]
    It means a public relations team will be working non-stop to besmirch her character and reinforce his. It will have started already, and will include people trolling the internet and saying things like ‘gold-digger’ and ‘innocent until proven guilty’
    It means every previous mistake she made will be put on trial, and none of his will.
    It means her behaviour will be under a microscope until the trial is over.

    If she didn’t think of these things before she asked for the kit, they will have been made abundantly clear to her by now. She is almost certainly very scared right now. Some sort of plea bargain will probably be offered along the way. I’m not a lawyer, but while we are hopefully waiting without passing judgement; there are machinations being made that would certainly make my head spin.

    If it goes to trial and he is found not guilty many will believe it proves innocence. In that case I’m afraid it is you who have a naive perspective on justice, especially American justice [sorry, neighbours – think Nicole Simpson, Mary Jo Kopechne].

    It is surprising to me, the number of people who felt it necessary to mention his money as a possible motivation for her call and visit to the hospital. If you wish to discuss possibilities, it is possible that all the passengers of flight MH370 are living it up on a desert island after faking their disappearance. It is possible all those women got together to discredit Jian Ghomeshi, because they didn’t like the job he was doing on Q. It is possible that Bill Cosby is just a very funny fellow. However, Occam’s Razor suggests the simplest story is the most likely to be true.

    “a cannonading drive”

  3. Ron says:

    New thread is up..featuring Gally

  4. ari says:

    The biggest knock on justice system is waiting time.The issues like this shouldn’t take months and years to resolve….it should be dealt with in a couple of weeks. For the sake of every body.

  5. Ian Cobb says:

    Branko Radivojevic posted this to me.

    I know maybe i am too close to this matter. But i am so sick of everyone villifying patrick kane. If he is charged and found guilty then so be it. But if its found out that the girl actually did take the cab back to his house and then later cried rape and is going to end up with a lot of his new 84 million contract then its not fair. Do we as professional hockey players have standards we should live by yes. But a lot of these kids are just that kids. And they are tossed into this lifestyle and handed money a career and women are all over them sometimes for the first time ever. At this point innocent or not he will lose sponsors fans (im assuming his gf). Like i said if its true and she doesn’t except a payout and lets it go to trial then i will have lost respect too. But until he is even charged lets watch what we say.

    • on2ndthought says:

      Well Branko may be sick of people vilifying Kane; but I am sick of people mentioning his money in reference to a girl who asked for a rape kit at a hospital. These comments are a disgusting attack on a girl no one knows. If it turns out she manufactured her own rape, it will be a sad story. If it turns out she was raped these comments will look even worse, even more misogynist, even more lick spittle obsequious than they do now…

      “a cannonading drive”

      • Canus says:

        Well said.

        And, Ian, I’m not sure Branko would want you to use his name in this situation.

      • UKRAINIANhab says:

        It’s a HUGE possibility that this could be made up. There’s many circumstances where athletes get scammed for some money and then it turns out they did nothing.

        My opinion on it? It’s Patrick Kane who’s a total class A tool with a record…. So IMO this did happen and he deserves all he gets, but still there is a possibility is did not happen. So who knows.

        I’m tired of political correctness however, you should be able to say that there’s a chance this COULD (key word could) be all made up without being attacked.

    • habstrinifan says:

      I am not gonna pretend. In my “sow my wild seeds” days I would have been excited if a girl agrees to come back to my place by cab or foot or any means.

      And as a red blooded male I would have been contemplating the obvious possibilities.

      But to say that just going back to a guy’s place means that any sex is consensual is wrong. No would still have meant NO.

      I am not saying Kane is guilty. But to say taking the cab back to his place is proof that everything after was consensual is also wrong.

      Hope I used the correct words here.

      • Phil C says:

        Agree 100%. None of this stuff about her being all over him at the bar and coming back to his place changes the allegation. It’s what happened after she said no that is relevant.

      • Habfan17 says:

        I wrote this below in response to another comment

        It is irrelevant what this Croce saw at the club or what he infers from her actions. Al that matters is what happened later on when the alleged rape took place.

        Even if she was acting territorial, attaching herself to him, etc, that does not mean she was willing or wanting to go past a certain point and if Kane thought she could have an alterior motive, and pro athletes get coaching and counselling on these situations, he should have stayed at the club and either called the police to deal with the situation or he should have found a way to leave without her.

        We can speculate, but without being there when the alleged assault took place, we have no idea what went on and all that other heresy is irrelevant. Even if she made it obvious at the club she wanted to go all the way, neither we, or this Croce have no way of knowing if she changed her mind. If it is the same woman.

        The sad thing is, all this is made public before the authorities have a chance to determine what actually transpired. With media now, they both face the “guilty” before proven innocent with the public. Not all the public, but with too many!

        Habfan17

        • naweed235 says:

          saying what happened in the club is irrelevant is an easy thing to do for people who have already made up their mind that Kane did indeed rape the girl… However, chances of a girl who has been drinking and flirting with a guy all night in a club and follows him home at 3 AM with the only intention of playing a game of Monopoly are pretty slim… Just saying.

          • twilighthours says:

            A woman is always within her right to change her mind. “No” always means “no.”

          • naweed235 says:

            I agree 100% Twi.
            All I am trying to say is there is at least a 50 / 50 chance of her making this whole thing up. Like I said below, a man who is falsely accused of rape and has to forever live with a stained name, is as much a victim as a woman who has been raped.

          • twilighthours says:

            Then your point about the girl allegedly drinking and flirting is irrelevant.

          • Habfan17 says:

            It still has to be proven, but ask yourself this. If that is your daughter, she was out drinking a bit too much and was too flirtatious and was really just hoping to hang with him to be able to brag that she was with a star and then he did sexually assault her, would it matter what someone at the bar perceives to have happened? Even if he was being promiscuous,, that still has nothing to so whatsoever with what may have transpired later.

            What you are saying is, if I was acting belligerent and it lead to a confrontation, then if I happened to leave the bar at the same time as the one I was being belligerent with, I would have been inviting or asking him to beat me up outside since I was rude inside.

            Habfan17

  6. BriPro says:

    Morning all!
    It’s been a while.
    I took my family to Cape Cod for our annual vacation on the beach.
    I’m always holding my breath going through Boston’s underground tunnel with the trailer in tow, expecting a Mass state trooper to pull us over because there’s no propane tank showing ( I leave it down there every year) or because of the CH on the back window.
    But a Bs fan was very accommodating in giving us directions for my wife’s search for the shopping outlets, and we had a friendly bout of “Go Bruins” vs “Go Habs”. I made sure I was louder.

    And to rub it in, my daughter’s roomie’s father works for the Predators promotional dep’t and no only has she been secured tickets in the lower bowl plus food, free parking, free admission to a country music ever festival for $98 for a pair of tickets, but they’ve offered her a bobble-head of her choice.
    It’ll be cheaper for me to book a return flight to Nashville, take in the game with my baby than to buy two lower bowl seats for the Habs.
    Pretty sad….
    That’s it for my summer input! Hope you’re all having a great summer!

  7. on2ndthought says:

    Last time I posted a facebook link it didn’t work, but here is [another] nice story of Sid and Nathan visiting a leukemia patient in NS. For every Marchand and Kane in the NHL, there are 10 of these guys…

    https://www.facebook.com/LightTheNightAtlantic/photos/a.210638809006791.50349.128463053891034/894791223924876/?type=1&theater

    “a cannonading drive”

  8. Strummer says:

    ! saw Stu Cowan’s tweet regarding Rogers broadcasting every game this upcoming season.

    So nothing has changed from last year?

    If I’m west of Belleville I’ll have to watch 30 or so games on my computer?

  9. naweed235 says:

    For those who are following the Kane story, here is a new article with recent details.
    http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/new-details-emerge-in-allegations-against-nhl-star-patrick-kane-20150809

    One thing that will be in Kane’s favor, is the eyewitness reports from the club staff stating that there was a girl who was pushing herself on Kane all night, almost fending off any other females away from him. They say Kane was not unusually drunk and when he left the club, the girl and her friend followed him out. Although he cannot say if this is the same girl who made the rape allegations, to me it would sound like someone who recognized the fame and saw an opportunity to make a quick buck.
    I may be wrong but…

    • Strummer says:

      She’s making Pat feel like he’s never been born

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa_xeWkpVt0

    • on2ndthought says:

      I’ve got a real problem with your comments. You may be getting info from other sources than the one you posted, but there is no reference to the statements you make in that article. Even if your statements are confirmed….. sigh…

      A 20 something woman attaching herself to a guy in a bar is not asking to be raped. She probably has foolish [perhaps even drunken] thoughts of being Mrs. Kane, or starting a romance or… well… I don’t speak for 20 something women, not even my own daughters. The article does speak of bite marks, and scratches on her legs, and an upset call after leaving the house.

      Speculation is something we do on this site, but please keep it to line combos, trades, and replacement coaches….

      “a cannonading drive”

      • naweed235 says:

        Nobody said she was ”asking to be raped”… That’s quite the exaggerated conclusion you took away from my comment. And your speculation of her wanting to become “Mrs. Kane, or starting a romance…“ has no more merit than mine, especially in a club setting… If you automatically dismiss the possibility of the existence of women who hunt for this type of opportunity, then you my friend might be a little naive. I am not saying that the girl is not saying the truth because for all I know, she may very well have been wrongfully assaulted but from what I read in this article, my conclusion tends to go the other way.
        Like you said, it is all speculation anyways…

        And in case you missed those references, let me copy/paste the direct quotes for you.

        But Croce told The News that he and several of his employees noticed a young woman “hanging all over” Kane at SkyBar for at least two hours that night, putting her hands on his arms and “being very forward, very flirtatious with him.” He said he does not know the woman and does not know her name.

        “It was almost like she stationed herself near him and was keeping other women away from him,” Croce said. “I noticed it and kind of laughed about it.”

        A bar manager that night also noticed the woman’s behavior with Kane, Croce said.

        Croce said the woman and a female friend “followed” Kane as he left the nightclub with a couple of male friends around 3 a.m. last Sunday.

        “I don’t know if this is the same woman who made the rape allegation against him,” Croce said. “I only know what I saw that night on my own premises. If you’re going to ask what happened between them after they left that night, how would I know?”

        “I’ve got no skin in this game. I am only telling you what I observed,” Croce said. “(Kane) was acting like a typical young guy his age, out having fun with some of his buddies. A lot of people were coming up to him, asking to have pictures taken with him. He was a gentleman. Pat had a couple of drinks and maybe a couple of shots. He was having a good time, but he wasn’t stumbling or doing anything obnoxious.”

        Croce said that, in his opinion, some news media reports make it appear as though Kane is guilty of rape.

        “This is America, the place where you are still innocent until proven guilty,” Croce said.

        He said that, to his knowledge, Kane has visited SkyBar “two or three times” in the past several years and never caused problems there.

        • on2ndthought says:

          that is not the article you posted
          and maybe I am naive. I remember being around young women, maybe i was lucky…

          “a cannonading drive”

          • naweed235 says:

            fair enough. And please don’t take my reply as dismissing your comment. All I am saying is that there are all kinds of people in this world and those who cry rape after they consensually involve themselves in a sexual act that they may later regret after the fact or simply cry crocodile tears with an ulterior motive to some cash are no better than men who rape. A man who has been falsely accused of rape is as much of a victim as someone who has been raped.
            All we can do at this point is give both sides the benefit of the doubt.

        • Habfan17 says:

          It is irrelevant what this Croce saw at the club or what he infers from her actions. Al that matters is what happened later on when the alleged rape took place.

          Even if she was acting territorial, attaching herself to him, etc, that does not mean she was willing or wanting to go past a certain point and if Kane thought she could have an alterior motive, and pro athletes get coaching and counselling on these situations, he should have stayed at the club and either called the police to deal with the situation or he should have found a way to leave without her.

          We can speculate, but without being there when the alleged assault took place, we have no idea what went on and all that other heresy is irrelevant. Even if she made it obvious at the club she wanted to go all the way, neither we, or this Croce have no way of knowing if she changed her mind. If it is the same woman.

          The sad thing is, all this is made public before the authorities have a chance to determine what actually transpired. With media now, they both face the “guilty” before proven innocent with the public. Not all the public, but with too many!

          Habfan17

    • Canus says:

      And, all this just when Roosh the douche is in my fair city

  10. Mavid says:

    boy its deader than a doorknob on here..I did not like the fighting but at least it was some excitement…zzzzzz

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  11. Habfan17 says:

    Folks who keep preaching that the NHL is not a development, or learning league, should read this. Then they will see why the young line in Tampa has succeeded! Philly used the same philosophy on the Legion of Doom line!

    http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/lightning-coach-jon-cooper-is-a-man-with-a-plan/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=thn_daily_20150809

    Habfan17

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      Saying the NHL isn’t a development league is misleading IMO. Yes, there’s a certain base level which players must reach, but they’re also all expected to learn and progress once they get there. Suppose AG has a breakout year in 15-16 or the next, wasn’t he being developed over the past 3 years? How many are stars when they come up? Most have to develop.

      So yes, it’s not a development league in the sense that players must be up a standard when they arrive at the N, but there is still much developing to be done.

      It seems to me that the crucial question is when are they ‘ready’ to be further developed at the next level. For some, probably out of necessity, like AG, it’s in the big league. For others, because there is less need for their talents, like Tinordi maybe, they may actually be ‘ready’ before they are given the opportunity. There are teams that probably would have be developing Tinordi in the N for the last year or more, but the Habs didn’t have either the need or luxury to do that,

      I know that the mantra is that it’s up to the player to show that he’s ‘ready’ but there are lots of nuances and variables IMO.

  12. Mavid says:

    59

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  13. habs001 says:

    Looking at the Eastern conference this year there will be no easy first round opponents available..The regular season goal should be making the playoffs with no significant players getting injured for the playoffs…But let me also predict that there will be posters that will have negative comments towards MT if the Habs have the same or more points next year in the regular season as they will say he overused his players..and some of the same posters beside others will have negative comments toward MT if he has fewer points next year…..

    • Habfan17 says:

      There may be some, negative posters, however, I think you need to differentiate between those, like me, who use observations and fact to voice their dissatisfaction. These are not negative.

      What I will say for myself is that if MT deploys the same system and the PP continues to struggle, the PK continues the trend of being less effective in each year since MT became coach, the young core deos not show noticeable improvement , and the Habs bow out in the first or second round, I will not be happy. I would say that having the same or more points really has little importance when it comes to all those areas, if there is no improvement in scoring, development, and getting deeper into the play offs!

      Both the PK and PP need to be better, and with the changes that MB made this summer, the Habs need to increase scoring when it counts, not when the game is already won and they are padding their stats. Although I do enjoy a few of those games!

      So, to your point, if MT gets the Habs to the same finish as last season, with the same system, and nothing else improves and they lose in the first two rounds, then yes, I do think you will see many here that are unhappy.

      Habfan17

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      If you don’t think MT has overused Markov and Plekanec the past three seasons, then I don’t know what team you have been watching.

      “The regular season goal should be making the playoffs with no significant players getting injured for the playoffs.” We know this. You should be sending this to MT instead.

    • JohnInTruro says:

      Everyone has a different idea of what would be considered a successful season. Based on understanding this, you can expect positive and negative comments about MT, regardless of our record or our final result.

    • on2ndthought says:

      Good health to the Petry clan. I seem to remember mom (Julie?) was a part of the decision making process to resign here. A Habs fan is born!

      “a cannonading drive”

  14. The Universe says:

    Four score and seven coach’s ago I had a dream……
    To add to the the great analogy provided by Front , the summertime is like recovery where you forget how bad it was and only remember the good times.
    You forget that the coach still has DD on the PP.
    You forget all the goalposts and inability to score in the first period.
    You forget that the referees are incompetent.
    You remember the end to end rushes.
    You remember the crushing hits.
    You remember the goal picking the top corner.
    So you say to yourself, I give you another year only to face 82 crappy games till the premium stuff is thrust upon you all is forgiven for a time.

  15. Habitant in Surrey says:

    It will really burn My azz if We lose either Bournival OR Tinordi because of the waiver rule.

    • Marc10 says:

      I very much doubt MB rolls that dice. If it comes to that it could happen with Bourni, but Tinner is an asset that will fetch a return of some kind.

      There’s still plenty of time before we cross that bridge and I’m sure MB has a plan or two for just such an eventuality.

      • on2ndthought says:

        Yeah, a trade or the press box are the obvious ways to avoid losing them for nothing. Bournival might bring a mid round pick or a similar but younger prospect. Tinordi is in a very small class of very large players. He could easily develop in the NHL on a rebuilding team [Oilers? Arizona? Toronto?] Those teams won’t want to trade a prospect, though. Maybe a package for Hanzal or Henrique, or Gaunce from Van?

        “a cannonading drive”

  16. Da Hema says:

    While I empathize with those Habs fans who are now facing rather sizable cost increases — at a minimum, Geoff Molson is revealing himself to be no better than a Conservative politician given his former commitment to keep ticket prices “affordable for families” — the real scandal is that Edmonton fans are paying the second-highest average ticket prices for that gong show Katz calls a professional hockey team.

  17. Dust says:

    Time for me to say what i think the habs lineup will be to start the season. Because i know everyone wants to know.
    Patches DD Kassian
    Chucky Pleks Gally
    DSP Eller Semin
    DLR Mitchel DW

    Markov PK
    Emelin Petry
    Beau Gilbert

    I gotta say. On August 8th. I like what Im seeing

    • Marc10 says:

      Move Gally to DD’s line, put Semin with Pleky and move Kassian down to the third line and I suspect that’s how it will eventually play out.

      I like the idea of Kassian on DD’s line though. I don’t think he’s earned the spot just yet.

      As for Semin, he’s a top 6 talent. He needs to be in a position to succeed. You won’t get great results if you put him on checking line with defensive zone starts.

      My two cents… Otherwise, it looks good. And good enough to make the show provided the newbies compete hard.

      • How about Semin on 1st line with Patches & DD. That gives DD two scoring wingers and hard for other team D to defend against. Put Kassian on 3rd line with Eller and DLR or Bournival. DSP with Mitchell and Weise as 4th line.

        It all depends on who will showup to play each given night? Think MT will continue to juggle lines at any given time throughout each game. Would like to see some changes from this coach in keeping lines intact for more than a few games? This is a transition MT needs to make going into this season.

        As for D pairing it seems a trade needs to happen in order to have Tinordi and Pateryn to play as 5th & 6th D. Prefer these D combinations to start season with.

        Markov – PK
        Beauliea – Petry
        Tinordi – Pateryn
        Gilbert or Emelin

        A trade needs to happen IF GMMB plans on keeping Bournival and Tinordi in Habs system? Time will tell in coming days perhaps?

        • Marc10 says:

          Not sure how much of a North-South guy Semin is or if he likes to hold the puck in the neutral zone.

          DD was his most effective when he was paired with the twin towers. Their transition was fantastic. Invariably one of Patches or Cole would streak down the wing and either blow by the D or use Davey to carry it in with a change of pace which would free up a winger. It was a great mix of speed and vision and caused defences all kinds of problems.

          I don’t know if Semin is that guy. I recall he liked to switch gears a lot rather than just rip through defences, but I’d love it if it worked.

          Heck, I’d be ecstatic if Chucky was the centre on that line and they carved up the opposition. We’ll see how it all shakes out.

  18. PK says:

    Toronto’s Price has given up five hits in the two games that he has pitched since being acquired by the Jays. Meanwhile, striking out
    18 and going 2-0.

    Too bad he can’t play almost every game like CP31.

    Go Habs Go!

    Let’s Go, Blue Jays, Let’s Go!

  19. HabsfanlostinTO says:

    If you get a chance check out the Habs Hall of Fame at the Bell Centre before it closes Aug. 30. It’s free and it’s worth the visit.

    ________________________________________________

  20. DeadEnd says:

    So, purely hypothetical here, but if Kane’s contract gets voided a la Mike Richards, how cheesed do you think Hawks ownership, management and fan base will be after losing Saad, Sharp and Oduya?

    • The Jackal says:

      Pretty cheesed, like quattro formaggio cheesed.

      This whole Kane thing really shows the NHL’s hypocrisy, though I may be mistaken – don’t think the Kings did anything about Voynov, even though what he did was disgusting and more serious than what Richards got booked for, but Richards is the one they don’t want on the books! To my knowledge, Slava will be back this season…

      I very much doubt that the Hawks will void Kane’s contract unless he’s looking at criminal charges, and even then it may be necessary rather than informed by moral considerations.

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      • on2ndthought says:

        I suspect you are right and keep hearing things like: “He’s paid his dues… taken sensitivity classes… we don’t want him to face this on his own… he’s started a charity with his little sister” floating ’round in my head. [ummm… I don’t actually hear things in my head… if I did I would get help]

        “a cannonading drive”

      • Curtis O Habs says:

        I was upset the league gave the Kings cap relief for Voynov. The team should be on the hook for the idiots they sign.

      • tonymr says:

        I’m not sure of the details of Richard’s issues but I read a Forbes’ article that said he was caught with unprescribed oxycontin pills. If that is indeed the case, it may be that they thought Richard’s wasn’t going to be able to get his life back together since an oxycontin addiction is very difficult to break. As well, their may be legal constraints contractually with Voynov.

  21. Un Canadien errant says:

    Well, since we’re not going to change the thread, I’m going to bring up the elephant in the room: this situation is like when Homer found himself at the mall and walked by The Cookie Colossus.

    Girl: Aloha! Would you like a free sample?

    Homer: The price is right! [stuffs them furiously into his mouth]
    Mmm.. Ooh.. Macamadamia nuts.

    Girl: If you’d like to buy some, they’re only a dollar each.

    Homer: Oh, so your little plan. Get us addicted, then jack
    up the price! [as he talks, cookie crumbs splatter out of his
    mouth, dirtying up his shirt] … [meekly] Well, you win.

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    Free Antonio Gates!

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  22. HabFab says:

    A music interlude to remind us of who we are;
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwJWbwG8BUw

    • The Jackal says:

      Must be the French media’s fault

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      • knob says:

        They must be looking for a mediocre centre to slot in with their best winger.

        • The Jackal says:

          Don’t you mean a perfectly capable centre (in lieu of a lack of a “legit #1 super elite centre”) to slot in with their best winger, who also happens to have great chemistry with said centre? 😀 😀 😀

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          • knob says:

            your definition of capable must be blurred by your bias. The guy I see our there isn’t capable of doing anything in the playoffs.

          • Slack says:

            His playoff performance is literally the only argument offered by his detractors…. He must be the only Canadien who doesn’t perform in the playoffs… Unless your assessment is ‘blurred by your bias’

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          • The Jackal says:

            Well, as long as you don’t think I’m a separatist for liking DD we can disagree in peace.

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          • Slack says:

            Lol!!

            Nah man, only separatist swine like DD!!!!!

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          • knob says:

            His playoff performance, Slack, is proof enough for me.

          • twilighthours says:

            And it certainly isn’t the only argument. And I’m not even a detractor. Just a reader

          • JohnInTruro says:

            Even if it was the only argument, it’s a pretty damn good one.

          • Marc10 says:

            You know who else has s terrible post season? Steven Stamkos.

            You could throw in Sid the Kid, Rick Nash, Marty St Louis…

            The playoffs are a different animal. That’s why you need ‘dep’ and special teams.

            When the Pens won their only cup, they did on the back of a total team effort. Talbot, Skuderi, Gill… Yes Fleury and Gino were huge for them, but the depth guys did their fair share.

            Since they’ve lost their depth, the Pens are a shadow of the team they once were (and that’s in spite of 2 of the very best forward sun the world on their roster).

            It takes 4 lines to win the cup. Picking on one guy when the entire roster isn’t scoring (except for the D), is par for the course in these parts, but it’s far from the whole story.

  23. PK says:

    @HiS, Phil C.
    The Jays finally have the pitching to match their offense.
    Habs will also become serious contenders once and if their offense catches up to what they bring defensively.

  24. frontenac1 says:

    Hola Amigos! Tough loss by the Als last night. Cato made a couple of rookie mistakes but he got virtually no protection from his “all-Canadian” O line. He was scrambling all night. That and Old Man Burris had all the time in the world to pick apart the secondary was all she wrote.

    • JUST ME says:

      I think that there are great things up ahead for that squad lead by a solid QB like Cato.

      Unfortunately though we have to go through the growing pains and this season may not be the one …

      • JF says:

        I agree. But I’ve pretty much decided not to watch, at least for now. The games are just too disappointing. However, some of the current quarterbacks (Travis Lulay, Mike Rielly) had tough rookie seasons – and I guess it’s a process the Als just have to go through.

        • JUST ME says:

          You are missing a nice show even though they are struggling to apply the finishing touch. Cato has it all and has the right stuff. His passes are soooo precise it`s not a fluke. I actually find that the coaches have more than their share of responsabilities in the Als problems so far. Inconsistancy in their choice of plays and/or players made for lots of lost chances and gave the opponent`s opportunities they capitalized on.

          • JF says:

            My husband also tells me I’m missing a good game. But I get so disappointed, even angry, when they start off well, have a good or at least decent first half, then do almost nothing in the second and lose the game on a couple of critical errors. But it seems to me that poor second halfs have been an Alouette problem for a few seasons.

            I like Cato. He just has to get the necessary experience. You could be right about coaching errors; I don’t really know enough to say.

  25. HabFab says:

    The St.John’s Telegram takes a look at the potential rosters for the Habs, IceCaps and the Waiver situation;
    http://www.thetelegram.com/Sports/IceCaps/2015-08-08/article-4239418/IceCaps-roster-reset-the-trickledown-edition/1

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Generally, I think the Telegram is giving us better coverage on the IceCaps than the Hamilton Spectator did on the Bulldogs.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        The Spec. Had the odd nice player feature but in general didn’t provide any premium coverage to the Dogs. The Ticats are number 1 in Hamilton and the paper then covered other pro events with the Dogs getting also ran coverage. Victim perhaps of the overall disinterest in the team.

        Hamilton is very close to many other premium pro teams which is the primary interest of the area, Bills, Jays, then Leafs and Sabres. The AHL is just not a big story. Even the Marlies get very limited coverage from the GTA papers. The IceCaps now get to be top dog in their region.

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          Thanks, that makes sense, the Bulldogs, ironically, weren’t the ‘Big Dog’ in their own market, whereas the IceCaps are the only game in town. Got it.

    • B says:

      The IceCaps seem to have quite a young AHL squad overall. The Telegram article mentions the 3 prospective IceCaps who would be considered as veteran by the AHL (Holloway, Dumont and Barberio). AHL teams tend to have more veterans in the lineup to not only help with scoring, but also to help bring along newer / inexperienced pro players. The follow article and excerpt has a good explanation of AHL rosters regarding veterans:

      http://www.uticacomets.com/constructing-an-ahl-roster/
      A Veteran Exempt (VE) is any player that has played 261-320 professional games in the AHL, NHL or any of the elite leagues in Europe (note that ECHL games do not count against this number). A Veteran is any player that has played in 321 or more professional games in those same leagues. Each player’s veteran number is calculated once before the season begins. So if a player finished the 2013-14 season with 260 games played he will not be a VE at all during the 2014-15 season. Technically there is no limit on how many Veterans or Veteran Exempts a team can carry on their roster. But there are restrictions to how many of them can dress in each game. The limit of combined Veterans and VEs that can dress in each game is six. At least one of those skaters HAS to be a VE. So you cannot dress six veterans in a game, but you can dress six VEs in a game.

      –Go Habs Go!–

  26. Mavid says:

    60

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  27. HabsKid says:

    I got an 11 game Panthers season ticket package, 2 seats lower bowl, row 12 behind the goal for $1,100. Hits all key teams too. Happy I don’t live in a hockey market.

  28. JohnInTruro says:

    B – did I miss something? Where did Sorkin go?

    • Marc10 says:

      He’s getting buried… I guess the Hawks know it for this kind of press to be getting out early ahead of the story.

    • jamman says:

      Good article, I think he did it.

    • lakechamplain says:

      Thanks for the link; as with most pro sports, especially when a star player is involved, one wonders how many similar incidents occurred in the players past and were ‘taken care of’ or covered up or the player made nice and ‘apologized’, all to achieve the end result of keeping the player, in this case and sport, scoring those goals.

      Not all NHL players, who were all ‘stars’ at some level of their hockey careers, developed attitudes like Kane seems to have that they were above the rules or laws. But to society’s credit in both Canada and the US, official attitudes, both of the teams officials and law enforcement, have changed and sexual assault cases are not routinely brushed under the carpet like they all too often used to be.

      The biggest sport of all, the NFL, seems to be learning the hard way about this, but at least they are changing and other sports leagues seem to be following suit. Judgement in this case must await the evidence that the authorities are gathering in Buffalo.

    • The Jackal says:

      Was thinking about it the other day and I figured that since his camp hasn’t really come out to deny stuff that he must be pretty f’ed.

      What a mess.

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  29. Phil C says:

    So the Leafs have the highest ticket prices. They also have an arena where many seats are empty at puck drop as the suits mingle at the bar, and has an atmosphere that is described as sombre. This despite having one of the most rabid (and loyal) fan bases in the world. To me, the poor atmosphere in the rink is a second order effect of pricing most fans out of the market. I hope the Canadiens don’t wreck something that is very special about the Bell Centre for only “$6 or $7 dollars a ticket.” There should be more to running a business than maximizing profit; they shouldn’t let the lawyers and accountants hijack the business.

    • Marc10 says:

      Safe bet this happens… Sadly. If this was a soccer stadium, you could still get the plebs to bring the party, but a hockey rink is much smaller.

      Unless they find a way to keep the money at the bar, and yet feel like they’re on front row, you’ll get Toronto.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      One of the challenges for the NHL is it still is primarily a gate driven league. The TV money just doesn’t cover the costs of the players much like MLB and NFL.

      Funny how being a hockey fan appears just as expensive as being a hockey parent. Hockey is in many ways pricing itself out of the market.

      There is still CHL and AHL hockey at affordable prices.

  30. Phil C says:

    Now that they have some pitching, the Jays are fun to watch, especially Donaldson and Bautista, who put on a hitting clinic most nights. No easy outs in that line up. Not sure what happened in Colorado with Tulowitzki, seems almost like the Roy trade where management made a hasty trade out of frustration. Nice to be on the winning side of a bad trade for a change. A nice distraction until hockey starts.

  31. Luke says:

    Penfolds sure know how to squeeze a grape…

  32. UKRAINIANhab says:

    Not a blue jays fan, or big baseball fan.

    But they could win the World Series. Incredible talent, and fun to watch!

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      Myself as well. I played ball (shortstop) when younger, yet mostly did not enjoy being a spectator.

      Fun playing the game, not so much watching, as baseball sometimes is like soccer, watching the grass grow.

      Yet, while driving My car during the Expos’ dayz, I listened to Dave van Horne and Duke Snider like it was music as the miles drifted by.

      The 2 seasons 20 something years ago I also enjoyed watching the Blue Jays during their post-seasons on the way to their World Series wins.

      Now, older and slower, I’m even having the patience (and enjoying every minute of it) watching the Jays playing mid-season.

      Donaldson and Bautista especially, but now that Price and other pieces have come onboard it is a truly entertaining contending team. Fun to watch.

      I’ve also numbed My mind conveniently to it’s association with that burg called Turranna. 🙂

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Your right Chris, much more fun to play than watch. But the Jays are as good as any team in the league this year.! Legit contender.!

    • habstrinifan says:

      Agree!

  33. HabinBurlington says:

    Big big extra inning road win for JAYS tonight.

    Go Jays Go!

  34. HabinBurlington says:

    @On2ndThought, thanks for posting that article, I saw it this morning and was going to post it but chose not to. I made a comment related to this topic yesterday and somehow it was perceived as me attacking a poster, when in fact my point was to not see anyone malign what could be the victim of a very very malicious and disgusting crime.

    I think the writer does a good job of trying to remove our “sports glasses” when reading/thinking about this story.

    Not judging anyone, but the realities of what this investigation is about is very very disturbing.

  35. Un Canadien errant says:

    Alouettes let one slip away tonight, although it was a very entertaining game. Two interceptions near the end zone by Rakeem Cato, when they were in field goal range, cost them the game probably. Kid will learn, when you’re that close, make the safe play, bank some points.

    Michael Sam was the focal point of a lot of attention from Rod Black and Duane Ford. He doesn’t look ready, he was a little slow, could stand to lose a bit of weight clearly. This isn’t a surprise for me, I thought it was a terrible decision for him to do the dancing show on TV instead of training for football. When he tried out at the NFL Veterans Combine earlier this year, all his measurables were poorer than his Rookie Combine from last spring, markedly so. And those hadn’t been great to begin with, he’d seemed too slow and stiff to play linebacker, too small to play on the line.

    He’ll get in shape as the games wear on, so that shouldn’t be a concern. I was more worried that, when he left camp, he just didn’t have the fire anymore, but Head Coach Tom Higgins states that’s not so, that he’s hungry and wants to succeed. I won’t write off a player who could be a gamer, a guy who overdelivers on the field, who seems to always make the right play, be around the ball, but doesn’t seem like much in practice. And Michael Sam could be that guy, the guy who somehow always finds a way to get to the QB.

    Once he gets in game shape, that is.

    Oh, and Burli, watching my first CFL game since Anthony Calvillo retired, that thing that drives you up the wall, how WR’s fly offside by at least five yards on every play, that was happening tonight, all game long.

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    Free Antonio Gates!

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    • HabinBurlington says:

      Happens every game, and continues to drive me batty. I have to admit i watch much much less of the CFL than I used to. There was a time I knew the complete roster and practice camp roster of the Blue Bombers, now I could probably name only 8-10 players off the cuff…..

      I love the CFL from a style of play, but I honestly don’t get interested in it until after Labour Day and only if the Bombers and then maybe the Tiger Cats are a factor.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Cato has some maturing to go through yet as a rookie. But the real killer this year is the amount of penalties the Als take, lack of discipline, needs to be corrected.

    • on2ndthought says:

      The key last night [other than the turnovers you mention] was that we could get no pressure on Burris. He dissected the secondary on the outs and drove at will.

      “a cannonading drive”

    • habstrinifan says:

      Do you think ‘handing’ Cato the job was pre-mature. I don’t follow CFL that much and I do know about the bad accuracy of the former guy (thinking Condon) but he did win quite a few games in a row last season to get them into playoff spot.

      I think he could have been an ‘option’ last night.

      • on2ndthought says:

        He took the job; but Crompton, LeFevour and Marsh are all still hurt. I haven’t felt as good about an Als QB since the last couple of Calvillo seasons. Cato just needs to learn how to finish against pros…

        “a cannonading drive”

  36. Un Canadien errant says:

    Craig Button’s early predictions for the World Juniors Canadian team this December. There’s good news for Canadiens fans.

    http://www.tsn.ca/button-an-early-assessment-of-team-canada-1.342350

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    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  37. The Jackal says:

    Tough crowd here lately, eh? Tabarnouche!

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  38. The Gumper says:

    Although I consider myself to be a pretty avid hockey fan, I could give two sh*ts about the price of hockey tickets. I rarely attend live games and I can’t say that I really miss it (although I would have loved to attend the HIO Summit this year to meet most of you folks, Ian, John and Captain Alex chief among them). Alas, we have our 30th Annual Hack & Slice that weekend in Phoenix so I sadly have to give it a miss.
    At any rate, I think it’s a bit sad that hockey has become a bit of an elitist pursuit as opposed to the family or bunch of buddies outing that it used to be. I don’t begrudge the Molsons charging what the market will bear as, put in their position, I would do exactly the same. Business is business after all. I just can’t see myself parting with $200-$300 for a generally mediocre game, ice cold hot dogs and piping hot beer. Give me a ten dollar steak, a twenty dollar Cabernet, a snifter or two of Drambuie and a flat screen and I’m golden. A much more enjoyable way to watch the game imo… That’s not to say that I wouldn’t give my eye teeth to watch a Habs v Bruins playoff tilt at the Bell but beyond that, it’s simply not worth it to me.
    Growing up in the Peg I’ve seen literally hundreds of live Jets games. My parents had box seats and rarely attended so cheap ass here had the best seats in town. That’s not to say that there weren’t some memorable games because there certainly were. Fergies box was right beside ours and when the Jets let in a particularly crappy goal Fergy would pound on the adjoining wall so hard that often glasses would be knocked off the shelf. We put all of the booze bottles on the lower shelves early in his tenure. One of our box mates was a very successful piss tank car dealer and kept the box supplied with the finest booze that money could buy so having a skin full was a given.
    Which reminds me of the one and only times that I ever cheered against the Habs (God forgive me)… It was the first time that the Jets were on HNIC and it was “Tuxedo Night” at the old barn. I believe it was 1979 and the Jets were playing the Habs who, as we all know, were an absolute juggernaut at the time. Long story short, the Jets trounced the Habs (7-3) and it was one hell of a night in the Peg! As fancy and refined as everyone was between periods (men in tuxedos and the women in evening gowns) it was a flippin gong show after the game to be sure. I popped into Fergy’s box post game and was pumping his hand and telling him what an awesome GM he was etc. etc. while he was just looking at me as though I had two heads and wondering who I was and what the f*ck I was doing in his box. Anyway, one of the funnest evenings that I’ve ever had at a game. Btw, Fergy has the biggest meathooks that I’ve ever shaken… flippin enormous. No wonder he pounded the crap out of all comers.
    My second favorite night was the night that Jimmy Mann (a grossly underrated heavyweight) put the boots to Wenstink, Jonathan and O’Reilly in one night! I had virtually no voice left at work the next day. What a game! Have absolutely no idea who won the game.
    I did get to see Gretzky a lot as the Oilers were in our division at the time (even watched him play as a 17 year old with the WHA Indianapolis Racers) and it was pretty clear at that time that he was going to be something special. Watching a player like Gretzky live is worth every penny (although I spent naught one) as we may never see a similar talent. Whenever he was on the ice I focused on him alone. His uncanny ability to find space and the puck at exactly the same time was something to behold. I doubt that I’ll ever see anything as impressive.
    At any rate, I suppose what I’m trying to say with this blather is that I don’t discount live hockey outright as I’ve enjoyed it immensely over the years. I’ve seen some very entertaining games (sadly mostly the Jets as opposed to my beloved Habs, only seen two live, one in the Forum, one in the Bell). I’ve obviously seen a pile of crappers too and to me, they are seldom, if ever, worth $200-$300.
    Probably had too many free tickets as a yout I suppose…

    • on2ndthought says:

      Thanks for the recollections, Gumper. My favorite thing about live games is being able to see the positioning of the whole team(s) during the game, so I don’t mind the nosebleeds. On the other hand, there is no better way to experience the speed, violence and skill of the game than sitting at the glass [which I did a few times in the old Forum, after seats were abandoned…

      “a cannonading drive”

      • The Gumper says:

        I hear you O2T, I’ve only sat at the glass once in my career and it was a dilly. It was a Jets v Blues tilt and Jim Kyte went at it with Tony Twist early in the game and got the bark beaten off him.
        Late in the third, still smarting from his earlier beating, Kyte jumped the Twister from behind right in front of us. Twist peeled him off his back and proceeded to beat him like a rented mule. Although the crowd was loud, we could hear every blow like an axe splitting a log. It was effectively the end of of Kyte’s career (certainly as a scrapper) which was sad to watch but holy crap, have never seen anything like it. I don’t mean to sound like a violence freak because I’m not. It’s simply the only experience that I’ve had at the glass and boy o boy, that was something.
        That being said and while I’m on the subject, I would put Tony Twist in my top five dudes to never, ever annoy. The other four, in no particular order would be,…. Fergy, Stan Jonathan, Cement Head and Probert… I’m sure that there are others that slip my mind at the moment….

      • Mavid says:

        So true, I got ticket to the Habs vs Sens one year it was on Valentines day..we were in the second row right behind the Sens bench..I would not want to watch every game this close, but once in a while its pretty cool..for one thing the size of the players..and all the jawing that goes on that you would not see anywhere else. I think it was yappy lappy and knuckle head neil, it was a face off and they were exchanging pleasantries while waiting for the puck to drop. I was dressed up in all my habs gear, and every now and then the Keibler cookie coach would look behind and give me a dirty look…as if to say HTF did you get back there..

        Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

    • Marc10 says:

      Great trip down memory lane.
      Thanks for sharing!
      Mr Ferguson was one guy I’d love by my side in any alley…

    • Mavid says:

      What a great story..and memory..I lived in the Peg for three years in the early 80’s my Uncle owned a couple of Husky garages..he had season tickets to the Jets, and the Blue Bombers..he knew my dad was a Habs fan so he took him to the Tuxedo night games….he never took me though..my sister won tickets on the radio station and gave them to me so I took my dad. The Jets were playing the Canucks..I was cheering for Vancouver making my dad very nervous..he kept telling me to keep it down, worried that we may get harassed.. Jets fans as it turns out take their hockey very seriously..thats why next to Habs fans they are one of my favorites..from the Tuxedo night (because the Habs were considered the class of the league) to their love for the team you cannot ask for much more.

      Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  39. Habsfan43 says:

    This is completely unrelated to the article, but with Souray just retiring, would it be worth it for Bergevin to offer him an assistant coach job, just to help with the powerplay? Probably a crazy idea, but it’s late, I’m bored, and this just came to my mind.

    • Marc10 says:

      I think he’s settling down with yet another bombshell somewhere down South and likely near his daughter… So that’s no going to fly.

      With the personnel on the ice now, I would think you give the team another crack at it.

  40. The Jackal says:

    On a lighter note, does anyone miss the triple low-five?
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  41. Un Canadien errant says:

    Just fired up the PVR to watch the game between the Alouettes and Ottawa, and apparently their stadium is sold out on a fine summer evening.

    Meanwhile, the Lions in Vancouver are having trouble filling B.C. Place, which can be a bit of a mausoleum, even with the sunroof now operational. Often, an email comes around at work, where the Lions are running a theme night, saying that they’re trying to ‘thank’ us and want us to come to a game at half price. And it feels a little hollow. Good on them for trying to sell tickets any way they can, but it’s a bit transparent, thanking me with ticket that was going to go unsold, but first would I please pony up some dough? If you gave it to me for free, that would be gratitude.

    The Lions fell victim to the same trick that the Argos did. They saw how well the Alouettes are doing at Percival Molson Stadium, and looked into refurbishing an outdoor stadium, or sharing a new one right on the waterfront. B.C. Place responded by giving them a sweetheart deal on their lease, same as what Skydome did when the Argos were looking to build their own U. of T. stadium, and share that with the soccer team. Both teams announced with great fanfare that they were staying put, it didn’t make financial sense to move.

    Cheap rent in both cases is turning out to be counterproductive, it’s driving away fans and killing the franchises. It kept teams from doing what they should have done all along, move to a nice small homey stadium, and if they need the extra room for a Grey Cup then make the call then. The Lions should have renovated Empire Stadium, and the Argos should have built their downtown leafy campus stadium already.

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    • DadidolizedDougHarvey says:

      That Ottawa stadium looked great tonight.

    • The Gumper says:

      I lived in Burnaby for 7 years UCE and always went to the Lions games when the Bombers were in town. BC Place was a snoozefest at first but as the Lions became more competitive, turned out to be a little louder and more fun. It was no where near as fun as the Winnipeg Stadium but at least on the right track. Football needs to be played in the elements. BC Place was stuffy and claustrophobic as hell. Haven’t been to a game since the new roof but I did enjoy watching a few games at the temporary barn the built near the PNE when the new roof was being put on!

      • formerly known as the hc says:

        I agree that football should be played in the elements. I agree all year until I watch a game at Commonwealth in mid November. Then, I undergo a huge shift in thinking.

  42. Un Canadien errant says:

    Un Canadien errant AUGUST 6, 2015 AT 2:21 PM

    Since there are no details or even really any information, shouldn’t we hold off on commenting, instead of speculating that the alleged victim might be to blame? …

    I posted this on the Patrick Kane situation yesterday, and that’s still where I stand. We don’t know what’s going on, have no specifics at all, so we shouldn’t really be commenting on it, except maybe to say it’s sad that this talented young man finds himself in trouble again.

    To pro-actively say we should give him the benefit of the doubt, or that he’s innocent until proven guilty, even in response to someone who’s venturing into speculation, is gauche at least.

    The article linked to written by the Chicago journalist hits the mark, when it cautions against the spontaneous reflex to search for culprits to exonerate Patrick Kane, which is mindless team boosterism, and is ignorant of the situation, the justice system, and the difficulties and fears faced by an assault victim when she comes forward to report this.

    We Canadiens fans have done this in the past. When Nathan Beaulieu was arrested for assault, a significant portion of the Commentariat was quick to speculate that it was just youthful highjinks, a drunken brawl at a bar like they occur regularly. Some would confidently predict that he was probably just trying to defend his father, and tried to spin it as a mark of good character.

    It turned out that none of these guesses were true or truthy. Nathan actually plead guilty to the charge, and the specifics weren’t ‘just a punchup at the watering hole’. Good on Nathan that he earned a discharge, and seems to have turned his life around, based on the way he carries himself and speaks to the media.

    But the instinct to protect, to defend a player, a local hero, because he can earn your team wins and championships, at the expense of a no-name victim, is an ugly side to fandom. Sure, let’s paint our bellies and exhort each other that “You gotta support the team”, but the Patrick Kane investigation is a clear case which falls way beyond that.

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    Free Antonio Gates!

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • The Jackal says:

      T’as raison

      ______________________
      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I think you tread on thin ice to compare Beaulieu’s off ice issues with Kanes. The incident which Nathan was involved in compared to the ramnifications of the investigation of Kane are night and day.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Burli, I’m not stating that the incidents themselves were comparable.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          I figured you would say that, but to put both stories in the same paragraphs as a comparison seems dangerous to me.

          Beaulieu’s incident easily could be an incident many be involved in, the story of what perhaps Kane is involved in is much much different.

          In a perfect world there is no strife, no fights etc… but to me the two stories are not worthy of being compared in any matter, period.

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            This may be an illustration of what Mr. Baffoe is decrying. He explains how Chicago fans safely consider Mike Ribeiro a monster, but some are already manning the ramparts to defend Patrick Kane.

            Similarly, when Patrick Kane was all liquored up and beat up a cab driver, we talked about his lack of character and lack of control, possible issues with alcohol, etc. He was a jerk and a thug.

            But on HIO, we can’t discuss frankly the criminal court appearance of Nathan Beaulieu, without some members attacking the posters who bring it up.

            I’m clearly not making an equation between the latest offence by Patrick Kane and Nathan’s assault conviction, nobody sanely would. I am making a comparison in how we often castigate and condemn players from other teams, but our boys are sacred cows. Like Mr. Baffoe is trying to get us to stop doing.

  43. Luke says:

    Hello!

    C-ya!

    • punkster says:

      I fear there’s a hidden message here.

      There was a trade and you’re welcoming the new hero and saying bye to the departing stiff?

      You’re just passing through town while heading to a secret destination?

      WHAT? WHAT???

      Release the Subbang!!!

  44. B says:

    Bulldogs -> IceCaps

    Gone from last season’s offensively anemic Bulldogs team are 5 of their top 10 scorers up front (Hensick, Bowman, Tangradi, Sorkin and Dowell). Also gone are forwards Macenauer and Gill. New forwards for the IceCaps are the veteran Holloway along with rookies Bozon, Grégoire, MacMillan, McCarron, McNally (who played 11 games with the Dogs after NCAA last season) and Scherbak. Returning forwards include Andrighetto, Bournival, Carr, Crisp, Dumont, Fournier, Hudon and Thomas. At least one of these returnees is likely to start the season with Montreal.

    Gone from the back end are Allen, Drewiske, Finley, Pateryn, Shea, and Tinordi. Returning D are Bennett, Dietz and Ellis. AHL experienced Joel Hanley was brought in and veteran Barberio may join the D along with rookies Didier (8 games with the Dogs last season after NCAA), Johnston and Lernout (6 games last season after the Broncos were eliminated). Thrower may or may not graduate from the ECHL Beast.

    Between the pipes, Joey MacDonald is gone, Condon returns and rookie Fucale will fight with the Eddie Pasquale to be Condon’s back up. Fucale might just end up in Brampton to begin his pro career.

    This seems quite a young AHL squad overall.

    –Go Habs Go!–

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Much depends on the Habs camp, if the Icecaps have Hudon back along with addition of Scherbak and Bozon, I think offensively they more than replace the top scoring career AHL’ers no longer on the roster. Younger indeed and i like the idea of where this developmental team is going.

  45. PK says:

    Hi Ian: you may find a bunch of HIO members camping on your property, trying to watch all these
    “free” hockey games … At least the west of Belleville crowd.
    🙂

  46. Forum Dog says:

    Auston Matthews (potential #1 in 2016) elects to play his draft year in the Swiss League. Interesting. Strictly a financial decision? Or is there a developmental angle to this as well? My understanding is that the Swiss League pays quite well, taxes are on the low end of the scale, and the player comforts are first class.

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/auston-matthews-to-play-in-switzerland-not-whl/

    Playing in a average professional men’s league shouldn’t harm his skill development, as the competition will likely be stronger and more structured than what he would get in Junior or college. An interesting move by him and his family….

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      A Team USA coach (I think) was on “That’s Hockey” a couple days ago and alluded to the fact that playing in Switizerland might be good for him, since he’ll be playing against men, but might also not be great, since he says the players there sometimes play with less urgency, implying that athletes go there for the good life, not necessarily to compete and win.

      • Forum Dog says:

        That is the gamble I guess. But even if the compete level is down a bit, it should still be as good as Junior. And for a 17 year old who is listed at 6’2″ and 195 lbs, playing against grown men is a better physical challenge. Going by those numbers, he is already a good ways ahead of a lot of his peers in terms of physical development.

    • twilighthours says:

      Good for him. Might as well get a head start on his paid career. If he’s going to go #1 or #2, it’s not going to hurt his long term prospects.

      • Forum Dog says:

        I read somewhere/someone postulating that it might have a knock-on effect for future draft eligible players, which I guess is possible. Personally I’m not sure, since I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that his only missed out on the 2015 draft by 3 days or something. Most guys his age will already have a Junior team, or would have committed to college. Methinks he has no intention of going to college, so it was really a choice between Junior and Swiss. If you feel you are ready for the men’s game and can collect a nice little paycheque to boot, it is kind of a no-brainer….

  47. Un Canadien errant says:

    An article on the Coyotes Development Camp, and their young exciting players Max Domi, Anthony Duclair and Dylan Strome, among others.

    http://www.rds.ca/hockey/lnh/au-coeur-d-une-releve-inspirante-1.2515156

    The Coyotes may not have done this consciously, but these guys aren’t just solid prospects, but they’re dynamic players who can put on a show. If they can’t sell tickets nobody can help this franchise.

    Anthony Duclair explains that he was shocked to be sent to Phoenix in the Keith Yandle trade, but now admits that it will provide him with greater opportunity to graduate to the NHL.

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    Free Antonio Gates!

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      A damn good, dare I say necessary read.

    • Cal says:

      It’s more of an attack on any fan that gives Kane the benefit of the doubt. It’s quite the rant.

      • johnnyhockeylarue says:

        More or less justified, because Kane–and the booze-fuelled frat-boy culture from whence he came–have done nothing to deserve the benefit of the doubt.

        I’ll leave the nuts and bolts of the legal business to the law people, but I have no problem with an established off-ice douchebag having his character foibles further showcased by an accusation like this. Or rather, I’m happy to counter the old boy mentality that presumes the alleged victim of a sexual assault in a case like this is some kind of litigious black-widow predator type looking to make a fast buck from a vulnerable multi-millionaire athlete–as if this were the norm rather than an extremely rare exception.

        • habcertain says:

          You have to wonder how the Hawks feel about moving players to shed salary, and now you will probably be tossing this guy. Can’t see them keeping him unless there is some big scam that is discovered, which is highly doubtful. If this goes the distance, can’t see the Hawks being too happy to endure the pain.

          • Habfan17 says:

            I wonder, if it turns out to be true, since at this point, he has not been found guilty, if Chicago would use the same legal argument that the Kings used to void his contract. Having to eat his new contract in a buyout would be crazy!

            Please know, I am not taking sides, simply stating from a legal standpoint, nothing has been proven. His past history doesn’t not serve him well in the public eye.

            Habfan17

          • B says:

            They would probably want to treat it more like Voynov than M.Richards and get cap relief if / while he is suspended. I am guessing he would be suspended if guilty and / or incarcerated during the season?

            –Go Habs Go!–

      • habstrinifan says:

        May I ask you.. on what basis are you giving Kane “the benefit of the doubt”.

        And remember be straightforward. If someone off the street had accused another someone off the street… and had gone to the hospital..and taken a rape kit exam…and had made the accusation in similar manner.

        You would have read it, and see no need to give anyone the benefit of the doubt and pointedly profess that position. You would have simply treated it as a news item and watch the developments.

        But you are now, for some not quite DEMONSTRABLE reason, giving “the benefit of the doubt” to one of the parties.

        Strange!

        • Cal says:

          These days “reporters” get a lot of things wrong. They rush to post a story online with no confirmation or corroboration. Therefore, when a story comes out like this I wait to hear more evidence before wading in with an opinion.
          Kane hasn’t been charged.

    • The Jackal says:

      What happened to innocent until proven guilty?

      ______________________
      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • The Jackal says:

      I get the message of the article, but the author sure is a presumptuous dude. What’s wrong with fans hoping that the allegations are untrue?

      If indeed he did wrong, that’s another story, but we don’t know anything yet. One thing is defending Kane if he did do wrong, another is holding out til the facts are out there and hoping that it’s not “true.” Why conflate the two?

      I’m no fan of frat culture, and I certainly agree that the culture around sexual assault has to change quickly, but there’s also room to understand that even if something went down, it doesn’t forcibly make Kane a bad person or a monster – he’s a dumb kid drunk on success and, also actually drunk – you can make a lot of regrettable decisions in short time windows and not have had that intention. It doesn’t make it okay, and people should be a lot smarter than to put themselves in situations to screw up like that, but he also shouldn’t be publicly hanged if indeed it was a gross and harmful lapse of judgement.

      I’m not apologizing for Kane, but once more the media seems to be polarizing a story. Either he’s a monster or his an innocent good old boy. Maybe he’s a kid who f’ed up, had poor judgement, and hurt someone in a moment of temporary idiocy. It happens. Doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be held responsible, of course he should, if that was the case, but we shouldn’t so quick to sharpen the knives.

      I for one hope that this was just a shitty misunderstanding and that Kane, and the victim, are both fine. Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t believe it if 88 was guilty of something, but the author of that piece is out to judge the guy already.

      ______________________
      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

      • twilighthours says:

        If something “went down,” then he is indeed a bad person. There is no room for it to be otherwise.

        • The Jackal says:

          I don’t think it’s black and white like that. The only possibility being if rape was committed, then yeah, total dirtbag.

          ______________________
          Hockey sine stercore tauri.

      • on2ndthought says:

        I didn’t read it that way. I read that he wants you to feel about the story the same way you would if you knew neither party. That he feels showing support for Kane right now is at least willful ignorance. It is addressed to a specific segment of Chicago fans, or anyone else who is rushing to defend the accused.

        I don’t read it as a rush to condemn.

        Experience tells me this is a crime that is under-reported rather than over-reported. A crime that does not lead to convictions when it could. An accusation that does not arise from a shitty misunderstanding…

        “a cannonading drive”

        • johnnyhockeylarue says:

          Well said.

          No matter how this shakes out, if it raises awareness and influences just one dumb kid to think twice before acting out in this manner, it’s a plus.

      • habcertain says:

        When one starts to compile a history of “bad” decisions, they just fail the smell test. As the article points out, even if he is not found guilty, the dude is out of bounds, Tyson was a good example of a history, until the hammer came down. This kid has huge entitlement issues and thinks the rules don’t apply to him. Can’t see the Hawks moving forward with him.

        • The Jackal says:

          For sure if he did something wrong then he should be held responsible.
          That being said, there are degrees of wrong and if we were to judge everyone for 2 big f ups as a drunk 20 something then we’d all have some bad images of each other.

          Just saying, I’m not trying to apologize for him at all, but it is possible that it was just a big f up and that there was no malicious intent behind it – that still means he could have done wrong but IMO there is room to differentiate in terms of how he is judged for this.

          ______________________
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          • habcertain says:

            I get what you are saying, but I think the nature of this potential infraction just brings it to higher level of scrutiny. Like I stated, even if he gets off, the general perception is he crossed some boundaries, and it sits low on the tolerance level. Now if it is total bogus,which it could be, then we should let due process play out. I just don’t think folks find this guy credible. It will be interesting to see what the Hawks do.

          • twilighthours says:

            How can there be no malicious intent behind a sexual assault? That is what is being investigated.

          • habcertain says:

            Yeah, this guy may have just pissed away a lot of cash and a nice career.

          • habstrinifan says:

            Geez! Run that argument by a few people… let me know the response.

          • The Jackal says:

            Gonna stop before this turns into a crazy HIO debate.
            I’m in no way trying to spin this, just saying that sometimes, young immature people screw up big, without having malicious intent. Nonetheless, they should be held accountable for their actions.

            ______________________
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      • habstrinifan says:

        “What’s wrong with fans hoping that the allegations are untrue? ”

        Examine that statement closely and you may see the reasoning of the author.

        • The Jackal says:

          Hoping it’s not true isn’t the same as rushing to defend the guy. I hope it isn’t true, if it is, I hope he is held accountable.

          ______________________
          Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • twilighthours says:

      Vitriolic

  48. frontenac1 says:

    So the boys in Vegas have the Als 2.5 pt Favourite tonight. Going to the Saloon and lay some coin on my boys. Sam might make his debut tonight too.
    Saludos!

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Should be a good game Fronts.
      If I knew your saloon, I’d pop in to watch the game with you. Just love the way you slide shot glasses on the bar. You never know which class beverage comes next.!!

  49. Un Canadien errant says:

    A short profile-interview with Mark Barberio:

    http://www.rds.ca/hockey/canadiens/mark-barberio-eprouve-de-la-fierte-a-representer-le-canadien-de-montreal-lnh-1.2516722

    He says he grew up as a Canadiens fan and felt thrilled to wear the jersey for the first time. It looks like he’ll wear #44.

    I consider him to be organizational depth, a leftie veteran for the AHL, something we need, and a guy we can call up for emergencies, but Ed thinks he’s much more than that, that he has talent and nothing left to learn in the AHL. I hope Ed is right.

    Also, some good news, TVA Sports has brought aboard Mike Bossy for hockey analysis.

    http://www.tvasports.ca/2015/08/06/un-grand-de-la-lnh-mike-bossy-fait-son-entree-a-tva-sports

    He admits he isn’t a Canadiens fan, that he can’t be as a former Islander and great adversary in the 80’s, but that it’ll mean he can be objective when critiquing games and the team.

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    Free Antonio Gates!

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • Cal says:

      Bossy used to be on Quatre Saisons- now called “V”- for their Habs and Nordiques telecasts. He was very good back then and has kept his chops by doing radio.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Yeah, we complain that we get goon buffoons for our talking heads, P.J. Stock and Mike Milbury and Nick Kypreos. For once we get a former All-Star, a supremely-skilled Hall of Famer. I’m fully on board.

    • on2ndthought says:

      I was so impressed when Ottawa got Denis Potvin for their local coverage. A superb player I loved to hate when he was against us and loved to watch against anyone else.

      Then, he opened his mouth…

      “a cannonading drive”

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Mike Bossy does have a halting, sometimes accented spoken French, kind of like André Savard, he’s not polished like Marc Denis, but I’ll take it, we need stronger content from our analysts. I always thought Mike Bossy was pretty smart.

      • Vladdy Mondavi says:

        I second your thought, on2ndthought.

        I can’t stand hearing Potvin’s grating voice or the words coming out of his pie hole.

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        Opinions are like kittens, I’m giving them away.

    • rhino514 says:

      isn´t barberio waiver eligible? Isn´t there a good chance he´d be claimed if he isn´t on the big club?

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Ed thinks he won’t go through waivers, that he’s too good a player. Offensively gifted, had a really good AHL career.

        I think the fact that the Lightning didn’t qualify him though speaks to his relative value to some degree. We didn’t have to enter a bidding war to sign him, there couldn’t have been that much demand.

        I just don’t think the Canadiens will have any other option but to waive him to the AHL.

        Markov-Subban
        Emelin-Petry
        Beaulieu-Gilbert
        Tinordi-Pateryn

        Mark Barberio is the 9th defenceman, the odd man out. Barring a trade or injury, that’s the likeliest outcome in my estimation.

        In the article, he states that it’s possible he’ll start off in St. John’s but will work hard to get called up. We need his talent and experience and leftyness down there, to a severe degree.

        Early in the season, when every team is struggling with their own headaches, trying to not lose any of their players on waivers, I think it’s a good bet that he passes through and lands in the AHL, but I don’t know the player like Ed does.

  50. UKRAINIANhab says:

    @coach K

    Yeah when I say “suits” I say it loosely. Really what you wear to the game doesn’t matter but I guess it is now a reference to those who don’t really car about hockey. Good post. It’s funny how towns change over time!

  51. BKAK72 says:

    Remember when $7+tax was enough to purchase RDS outside of Quebec and it meant 100% of the HABS game available for me/us outside the local market?

    Question: are the “regional” games available outside the Quebec/HABS market w/out having to pay $300/yr for ROGERS NHL CENTRE ICE?

    thanks…

    — HABS INSIDE/OUT R.I.P. —

    • Cal says:

      Those regional games- all 60 of them- are only available legally if you purchase Rogers NHL Center Ice.
      There are quite a few free live stream sites, but the quality varies.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      What ticks me off is that I only took advantage of this for a couple of seasons. Cable providers not giving me RDS in HD, or carrying the channel at all, stymied me for a few years.

    • BramScott says:

      There is a french version of Centre Ice available which last season had all the RDS broadcasts of Habs and Sens games. Over 100 games for $60.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      We get every Hab game this year here in Belleville, cable, no charge. Many more games as well.

      • B says:

        You get free cable in Belleville and no charge for RDS, the Sportsnets and Sportsnet360? Do you get TVA Sports for free too? There is an expensive monthly charge for all that where I live (more than the Centre Ice package costs per month) and some folks actually struggle to afford it.

        –Go Habs Go!–

  52. Slack says:

    I’m no fancy pants economist, but has the price of anything ever gone down ever??

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    “…press number seventeen for service in the language of les maudits anglais, or number twelve for service en français, the glorious language of our oppressed collectivity.”

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      Truth is still free but so few people value it anymore.

      When everyone’s thinking the same … it’s likely no one’s thinking at all.

      • Lapointe says:

        There isn’t much of that anymore either I’m afraid.

        • Thomas Le Fan says:

          I’d disagree, at least, in part. It depends on where you look. I saw this the other day and said amen.

          “Some things are believed because they are demonstrably true. But many other things are believed simply because they have been asserted repeatedly – and repetition has been accepted as a substitute for evidence.” – Thomas Sowell.

          When everyone’s thinking the same … it’s likely no one’s thinking at all.

    • Hobie says:

      No, but the average person`s salary used to go up too.

      • Thomas Le Fan says:

        Half of the population is below average by definition. However, it’s always been a bit of a vicious circle. Rising costs, including wages, are inflationary and inflation will always eat away at any gains made. We the people are at the mercy of things beyond our control. So we vote and hope for the best.

        When everyone’s thinking the same … it’s likely no one’s thinking at all.

        • DeadEnd says:

          I would suggest that more than half of the population is below the average, as the average as the average is skewed by high earners. Half the population is below the median.

      • Cal says:

        Geez, Hobie, that’s so 1970.
        Scary, eh?

    • B says:

      Nortel stock?

      –Go Habs Go!–

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Off the top of my head I would start with clothing/footwear. Opens up another whole discussion of ethics on why, but indeed they have.

    • Curtis O Habs says:

      Gasoline.

    • SmartDog says:

      Gee, I dunno…. The price of electronics consistently goes down. The price of gas recently went down. Things go on sale all the time.

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      Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • Slack says:

      Wouldn’t it be closer to the truth to say that the price of gas fluctuates?

      But if we look at the bigger picture, it has steadily trended upwards over the years?

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      “…press number seventeen for service in the language of les maudits anglais, or number twelve for service en français, the glorious language of our oppressed collectivity.”

  53. Un Canadien errant says:

    After the last NHL draft, I thought one of the themes when we look back on it as Canadiens fans might be the comparison between the career arcs of our first-round pick, Noah Juulsen, and another rightie defenceman from a local team, Jérémy Roy, who was passed up by the Canadiens and taken by the Sharks five slots later.

    from: http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2015/06/hot-takes-on-2015-nhl-drafts-first-round.html

    I think Trevor Timmins will have a great read on Jérémy Roy, since he plays on the same team in Sherbrooke as Daniel Audette, who’s already on board as a draftee. Donald Audette, his father, is a scout for the Canadiens too, so lots of intel, lots of viewings, if there’s a player they can get right it’s him.

    Noah Juulsen is in a situation that’s somewhat alike, in that he played on the Silvertips with Nikita Scherbak.

    This has happened often when the Canadiens pick a player and pass up a comparable player. Think of Mark Napier over Mike Bossy. Think of Terry Ryan over Jarome Iginla, although this comparison didn’t begin immediately, very few of us knew Jarome or what he’d become at the time, it only developed later on.

    This one is a natural, ready-made incipient controversy in the bud. All that will need to happen is for Noah to struggle and Jérémy to have more success for us to have grist for the mill. I posted that there will be markers along the way where we can measure each prospect/player.

    The Summer Showcase is one such marker, and it’s very early in the race, but Noah Juulsen is clearly in the lead. While Jérémy Roy was practically invisible during the two games he played, Noah shined. We shouldn’t put too much stock in an off-season development camp and exhibition games, but the opportunity for comparison is apt, since both players dealt with identical situations and conditions.

    Mr. Roy didn’t catch the eye much, in one game I only realized he was playing in the second period. Although that could be an unintentional bias introduced by the play-by-play team, he really didn’t do anything to make us notice him, while Thomas Chabot, by comparison, was all over the ice. In the second game against Russia, Jérémy coughed up the puck and made a bad giveaway, fell down while trying to cross over skating backwards, and that was pretty much his night.

    Meanwhile, I thought Noah played quite well. He skated strongly, all over the ice. He could defend an onrushing forward, starting from a standstill and skating backwards, generating plenty of speed, instead of the common practice of turning around, skating forward for a while to generate speed, and then turning around to face the opponent.

    He was lauded by Craig Button for ‘closing the gap’ in the neutral zone, and it was noticeable. He dished out hits. He was aggressive while defending, pinching up to break up a pass, to fight for a loose puck along the boards. He played actively, like he wanted the puck, instead of wanting to prevent the opponent from doing something with it, more Andrei Markov than Hal Gill.

    Offensively, there were a lot of positives. He carried the puck with confidence and found his teammates with his passes. When controlling it at the blue line, he’d feint and deke with authority. Some players have one or two moves, they’ll fake one way and go the other. Noah has a couple more tricks in his bag, he’ll feint and dodge and head-bob and stutter-step until the defender commits, takes the bait, and only then does he go the other way.

    He walks the line with assurance, and found ways to get the puck through the shotblockers reliably. None of his shots found the back of the net, but they forced the goalie to make a save, created the potential for a rebound or deflection.

    All in all, a very encouraging turn for Noah Juulsen, and I’m anxious to see how he develops this winter in Everett. To the point that I’m going to think about a road trip to see a couple of games there. Certainly I’ll see him when he plays in Vancouver against the Giants.

    In 1984, there were two LHJMQ defencemen who were highly-touted at the draft, Jean-Jacques Daigneault and Sylvain Côté. J.J. was the more skilled player offensively, but Sylvain was thought to be a better all-round defenceman, bigger and more physical too. There was also Craig Redmond who got lots of hype, and the shadowy specter of a little known Czechoslovakian player called Petr Svoboda.

    The leadup to the draft had lots of excitement, there was a report that Craig Redmond’s father made him wear lifts in his skates to appear taller to scouts, which was vehemently denied by them, so we all assumed it had to be true. Add in that the Canadiens had two picks at #5 and #8, and I was rubbing my hands with glee. Could we trade up to get the first overall pick and snag Mario Lemieux?

    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1984e.html

    My cousin and I decided we had to go, back then it was held at the Forum, and we took it the extra step. We wore our best, shiniest smartest (and only) suit, and tried to look like two prospects waiting to hear their names called. The Canadiens had a coup-de-théatre in store, they had Petr Svoboda hidden in the wings, and called his name at #5, bringing him out literally from behind the curtains, where they’d hidden him in a back room.

    He looked so skinny. Steve Shutt, at the subsequent training camp, quipped that Petr had been tortured before escaping the Communist régime, that they’d “removed his shoulders”.

    But it didn’t matter, I stood up and applauded, like the rest of the crowd. My cousin rolled his eyes, thinking this was going overboard. Our positions were cemented from there on. I was a fan, he was always a bit of a skeptic.

    Anyway, I followed the careers of these four guys the rest of the way. Craig Redmond never amounted to much. Jean-Jacques had a decent career, but never was the Phil Housley-Ryan Leetch-Kris Letang type he was projected to be. Sylvain Côté became a solid NHL defenceman, playing in over 1000 games and in some All-Star games. Petr Svoboda never quite became a star, but he played a vital role on the Canadiens in the 80’s. Whenever I attended a game at the Forum, I’d focus on him and watch him skate, it was a joy to behold.

    I think the 2015 draft will be the same for me, I’ll keep tabs on Thomas Chabot, who went to the Senators (gag!), Noah Juulsen and Jérémy Roy, but also the three other LHJMQ prospects who were often described by observers as just as good, just as promising as the Roy/Chabot tandem: Nicolas Meloche who went to the Avalanche at #40, Jérémy Lauzon who went to the Bruins (shudder…) at #52, and Guillaume Brisebois who went to Vancouver at #66.

    And so far, in the Juulsen-Roy head-to-head matchup, the first round was decidedly in our favour.

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    Free Antonio Gates!

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  54. Mr. Biter says:

    As promised yesterday, Jets season ticket increase 3%.

    Mr. Biter
    No Guts No Glory

  55. Hobie says:

    Be it gas, hydro or hockey tickets, Canadians are simply to soft and sweet to complain about anything. So the executives from big companies and corporations just laugh all the way to their yachts and mansions.

    They charge whatever they want. Capitalism at it’s finest. The gas, hydro and hockey tickets are just the tip of the iceberg. Cell Phone companies, clothing stores and basically any place you pull out your bank card, all charge whatever they feel like. There is no law against it. And there is very little arguing from anyone.

    We`re all a bunch of pushovers, basically.

    And on the flip side, all these big companies could actually pay their employees decent wages but they pocket that money as well.

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      I’d leave Hydro out of that complaint since it’s mainly government incompetence and horrible decision making that is driving those prices. At least, in Ontario.

      When everyone’s thinking the same … it’s likely no one’s thinking at all.

      • Hobie says:

        The thing about Hydro is their peak hours and off hours thing is total BS. They jack the prices up during the morning and evening because they know that`s when everyone needs Hydro most. Then they state it`s because that`s when the biggest strain on the infrastructure is. Total scam.

        Be it government owned or private, whatever, they`re just robbing people blind because there`s nothing stopping them.

        • Thomas Le Fan says:

          Perhaps but the overall price of Hydro, be it robbery or regulatory, is not driven by free market sources. In Ontario, ideology and idiocy have an equal influence.

          When everyone’s thinking the same … it’s likely no one’s thinking at all.

          • tonymr says:

            Hi Thomas,

            A polite question: are you of the mindset that there’s no need to be concerned about climate change, at least insofar as it relates to the burning of fossil fuels? I’m being sincere, btw, and have no intention of getting into a futile debate on it.

            Tony

        • Cal says:

          A wind-propelled dynamo on every home! Solar panels everywhere! (Never you mind that snow stays on our roofs!)

          Hydro hasn’t pulled that crap here in Quebec. It looks like Ontario is on the road to privatizing electricity utilities, which is a very bad thing for consumers, but great for the board of directors and share holders of Hydro One.

          • Hobie says:

            Exactly.

          • Thomas Le Fan says:

            Unfortunately, subsidies for alternate energy systems that don’t work are also part of the escalating prices. Some people think that’s a feature rather than a flaw. That’s the ideology part. Cap and trade or a carbon tax, by design, will only exacerbate that part of the equation.

            When everyone’s thinking the same … it’s likely no one’s thinking at all.

          • Cal says:

            @Thomas

            The “carbon tax” is on the list as the most stupid thing ever thought up by an accountant. Imagine, say, your government in Madagascar decides never to develop, retaining all of the rain forest save for a small percentage. Developed countries will send you money because you are not leaving a “carbon footprint.” It doesn’t stop the developed countries from polluting more because you can “trade” it. Ludicrous.

          • Thomas Le Fan says:

            Exactly true. It will also, apparently by design, drive up the price of … everything. Again, some see that as a feature. Then again, it’s allowed someone like Al Gore to become the first “green” Billionaire. So there’s that. Cheers.

            When everyone’s thinking the same … it’s likely no one’s thinking at all.

  56. Mavid says:

    won’t be long now…if you count pre season its only a mere 46 days!! Month and a half..

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  57. HabinBurlington says:

    Wow, talk about a bizarre story, those of you gearheads here will recognize the name Jenson Button. Formula 1 driver had burglars pump gas into the house knocking them out and then robbing them.

    http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/jenson-button-and-wife-gassed-in-home-robbed-of-465k-1722633266

  58. Timo says:

    How long before Michael Therrien resumes making better people out of Galchenyuk and Eller?

  59. Thomas Le Fan says:

    Someone’s got to pay for the spas and spats. Ticket prices are crazy? How about player’s salaries? 15 goal scorers are getting millions to under perform. I won’t speak for the Habs but it’s been obvious for many years that the Leafs would improve over night if the stadium was empty of season ticket holders.

    When everyone’s thinking the same … it’s likely no one’s thinking at all.

    • Say Ash says:

      Are 20,000 people willing to pay money to come watch you do your job every day? Millions more paying to watch you work from the homes? Pay money to wear your name on their backs with pride?

      • Thomas Le Fan says:

        You’re absolutely right. I don’t blame the players. All I’m saying is don’t complain about it, do something. If Ford makes a crappy product year after year, people stop buying it. If the Leafs put out a crappy product, they continue to sell out. Management only has to point out to ownership that the bottom line has never been better. I fear that syndrome has taken hold in Montreal and I’m hoping Molson and Bergevin will change that.

        When everyone’s thinking the same … it’s likely no one’s thinking at all.

      • Lapointe says:

        I dare say many who go to the Habs games are not the passionate fans that are on here….well most on here. I watch all games the Habs play and have for many a year. I see many taking selfies…just talking on their cell phones…taking pictures…talking and laughing seemingly endlessly. Now I was once a fan that frequented the arenas and I must say the fans of yesteryear were more likely to be intensely watching the games…….rising and falling with every scoring chance and every hit. Things are changing and if you pay attention you will notice a new breed of hockey fan that are in pretty good numbers. They are not necessarily that knowledgeable about the finer points of the game…they are out for the sake of the entertainment of it…..no not the entertainment of the science of the game….just entertainment much like a dinner event or concert……the atmosphere of it all if you like. Then there are the corporate people that show up in the second period maybe…or they give their seats away to clients….but in the end there is enough money available and ticket buyers to fill the seats and of course the third party sellers are proof that there are even a surplus of buyers….so of course Geoff knows all this…easy decision. My problem with this is we all pay some of the increase…even the ridiculous salaries that the players get we end up paying some of that too…think about it…..you will come to the conclusion even of you never heard of hockey and just recently came from Tasmania and settled here…you contribute to every sport salary by the products you purchase…..endorsements…..products from every corporation……everything is connected somehow. So enjoy the games you are paying a share of the product you are watching.

    • Strummer says:

      Molson-Coors revenues are down. Need to leverage the cash cow that is the hockey team to pick up the slack.

      “Net sales, including excise tax, declined 15.4% year over year to $1.006 billion in the second quarter.”

      http://www.nasdaq.com/article/molson-coors-beats-earnings-lags-revenues-falls-yy-analyst-blog-cm506116

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Molson-Coors has no stake in the Habs from what I can see. This Geoff and his partners running the Habs, not Molsons the beer company.

        Yah, there is a new world in beer going on with craft breweries really making big dents in the market. Look to see Molson/Labatts etc… buy the small brewers.

        Was in Chicago for the food show in spring and toured a beautiful craft brewer there whom Labatts just purchased. No changes to the brewery just like Molson hasn’t touched Creemore since buying them.

        • Strummer says:

          If Molson-Coors revenue is down then the Molson family’s pockets are lighter as they share controlling interest with the Coors family.

          The best way for the Molson family to make up that shortfall of their share of the brewing operation is to squeeze more out of their hockey business.

  60. nickster13 says:

    Everyone is justifying the price gouging, but most of it is going into Molson’s pockets. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer and the average fan cannot attend a game. That bugs me.

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      No one’s forcing anyone to go to a hockey game. Owners are taking big risks and making or losing big money.

      When everyone’s thinking the same … it’s likely no one’s thinking at all.

    • Scott_85 says:

      The individual game tickets haven’t changed in cost (at least from what I can tell), its only certain season tickets. My guess is that the average fan doesn’t have season tickets: most people I know who have them are trying to make $ reselling them.

      This won’t be affecting the regular guy like me who buys 2-3 tickets per season in the nose bleeds, again, as far as I can tell.

  61. HabinBurlington says:

    Okay, since people crap on the idea of Jays talk here, it is summer and that is baseball season. So enjoy the following those of you who love the combination of Montreal and Baseball (well softball/fastpitch).

    http://deadspin.com/tricky-softball-dude-hits-backwards-home-run-1722674174

    • Cal says:

      Hilarious!
      Now, that is eye-hand coordination.
      Talk Blue Jays all you want. There are fans here. I’m just not one of ’em. 😉

    • Dust says:

      Maybe we should talk some TFC.
      Giovinco, the best player in the MLS

    • Hobie says:

      At this point of the summer there is nothing going on with the Canadiens. Talk about whatever you’d like. GO JAYS GO!!!

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Growing up, seeing ‘Les 4 Chevaliers O’Keefe’ was one of the highlights of my summer. They’d come to our little town for “Le Festival du Tabac”.

      They were great softball players. The big dude who pitched was unhittable. And the short fat funny guy with the mike, who did the Ron LeFlore/Tim Raines and Elvis impressions, among others, was hysterical.

      I was surprised the other day when I saw that they were on RDS, that they’re still around, and kept the name, despite the disappearance of the great, lamented O’Keefe brand.

  62. Mavid says:

    61

    Summit name tags mmcgill7@sympatico.ca
    HIO name, real name, where your from (include guests)

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  63. HabinBurlington says:

    A very interesting read on how Federov became a Red Wing. Interesting to note the hotel which the Red Wings first spoke to Federov was The Drake Hotel, Al Capone’s old stomping grounds.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/08/how_portland_became_unlikely_b.html?

  64. SmartDog says:

    I would hope that Beauchamp regrets this line:
    “A 25-per-cent number might look like a lot, but at the end of the day it’s about $6 or $7 more per ticket.”

    This was a dumb thing to say. Anyone with a slight inclination toward math can quickly rough out that 6 or 7 dollars is about 25% of a ticket that costs around 20 or 25 bucks. And there are NO tickets like that obviously. Beauchamp must be talking about the overall % and putting that next to the raise in prices of the cheap seats. A little bit of PR mathipulation that doesn’t pass the smell test stinks. It smells like (and is) a flat out lie. This, more than the price change bothers me. Be straight up. At least do that. And the rest of the interview seems to have been. There is a case to be made. Not a popular one, but it’s there.

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    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • Cal says:

      What do you expect him to say?
      “All is well in the world because we’ve raised prices. Yahoo!”
      He has to face the music for what the board of directors come up with. The fact that the Habs had the 10th highest ticket prices last season meant there was a lot of room to make more money. As this is simply a luxury item, no one is being forced to buy it.
      Many hockey fans opt for watching junior games live as the price doesn’t involve going into debt. The WJC last year in Montreal- the lowest price was $79. I don’t think the Habs are out of line on this issue. They aren’t a charity.

      • SmartDog says:

        Did you READ my post?

        I don’t think so. Because I was addressing specifically that one line and the really obvious BS he was throwing (as opposed to the rest of the argument which was at least fairly honest).

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        Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

        • Cal says:

          Yup, and it’s a mountain out of a molehill. Does every sentence you bark come out PR perfect?

          • Slack says:

            No.

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            “…press number seventeen for service in the language of les maudits anglais, or number twelve for service en français, the glorious language of our oppressed collectivity.”

          • Cal says:

            @Slack. 😆

          • SmartDog says:

            You’re one sorry, messed-up piece of work.

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            Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

          • Slack says:

            Did I hurt your feelings?

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            “…press number seventeen for service in the language of les maudits anglais, or number twelve for service en français, the glorious language of our oppressed collectivity.”

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Also Dog, the now difference between the US$ and Can. $ is 25%.
      It’s just business.!

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    • Scott_85 says:

      The increase refers to the cost of season tickets, not individual tickets. See here:

      “The season-ticket holder in the blues who spoke with the Montreal Gazette said his seats now cost $44 each, up from $36 last season. ”

      So Beauchamp was pretty close in this case, as the tickets went up by $8, or 22%.

      They seem to be doing this to try to take more of the profit that season ticket holders are making by selling their cheap tickets for face value, weeding out the profiteers at the expense of the few who actually get the tickets to go to all or most of the games themselves.


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